tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1440286750138199044.post282693958316943665..comments2024-02-28T05:38:56.763-08:00Comments on Science Digestive: UniLad to the boneDean Burnetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15054744507490592341noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1440286750138199044.post-26230181271428489792012-02-03T12:17:24.356-08:002012-02-03T12:17:24.356-08:00Every joke pretty much on the unilad website was s...Every joke pretty much on the unilad website was stolen from sickipedia anyway, so not only are they cocks, they are thieving cocks....<br /><br />Irony would be one of the unilad posters getting bottom attacked on the way home from getting kicked out of uni, I wouldn't laugh, I promise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1440286750138199044.post-5365911496467658162012-02-03T07:50:26.206-08:002012-02-03T07:50:26.206-08:00@John.
My first draft of this article had a discu...@John.<br /><br />My first draft of this article had a discussion on my thing about there being no subject that is off-limits to comedy, a position I still stand by.<br /><br />I wanted to show how easy it is to say something that could be viewed as deeply offensive to someone purely because it's used in a joke. <br /><br />E.g I say how real men have a backbone. You could interpret this as saying that people in wheelchairs aren't real men, equating not sticking up for your actions to crippling disability.<br /><br />I compare feminists to Jedis. Am I equating feminism to a sci-fi concept made up to entertain lonely men? A deeply offensive notion to many<br /><br />I joke about my brain trying to escape from my eye sockets. Ergo, reading an offensive article is as bad as violent cranial trauma? <br /><br />The point of real men having 'balls' implies that the Unilad guys don't have any. Male castration = being told off for making offensive jokes?<br /><br />I've heard genuine arguments that are very similar to the ones I've listed. The point being that the way language (English, at least) is used means you'll invariably end up using terms/phrases that are innocently meant but are nevertheless very offensive to some. We use metaphor/exaggeration all the time. Esp. us comedians. <br /><br />I wrote a long passage explaining all this, then deleted at as it wasn't strictly on-topic and the piece was long enough already.<br />The sentence in question you take issue with was a holdover from this, both as an example and also me backing up my point that I do think subjects like rape shouldn't be off limits, but have to be handled properly. <br />But I forgot to remove/alter it along with the associated passage, hence why it seems to be a random bit of unnecessary trivialisation of a serious subject. This was an oversight on my part.<br /><br />So, to clarify this rambling point;<br /><br />I can see why that one seems bizarrely harsh, hopefully that's explained above. I feel it's obviously hyperbole on my part, and I still interpret the sentence as me saying Unilad's 'advice' is very dangerous and that rape is very bad. I think that's the opposite of the trivialising they got up to.<br /><br />If you or anyone else still feel it is offensive to an unwarranted level, then I will be happy to change it, I'm not especially attached to or proud of the bit as it is.<br /><br />However, I would argue that the level of scrutiny and interpretation you've applied to this one pseudojoke is excessive. From the article as a whole, it is blatantly obvious that I don't condone rape or the casual mocking of serious issues people may suffer from. You could apply the same level of scrutiny to every line in this article and derive similarly poor-taste interpretations. I know because I did it myself for the examples above.<br /><br />I understand your problem and can see why it is quite a stand-out example, and like I said I'm happy to alter it if you feel it necessary. But if people are going to be offended by derived trivialisations that contradict the tone of the whole article, I'd hope they'd be offended by all of them.<br /><br />I may be sounding a bit prickly (pricky?) about this, but it's something that irritates a lot of comedians; selective offence.<br /><br />It's like the people who actively go to see Frankie Boyle, then complain about him making bad-taste jokes about a subject that's personal to them. It's essentially saying 'I love it when you say terrible, offensive jokes about subjects, unless it's a subject that's relevant to ME'. It's infuriating, either find it all offensive or put up with it when it happens to be a bit more relevant to your life.<br /><br />I'm not saying that's what's happening here, by the way. Pretty sure it's not, but it could be interpreted that way. And that sort of thing is what started me writing this bit in the first place.<br /><br />Apologies for yet another long-winded rant.Dean Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15054744507490592341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1440286750138199044.post-36092587486681063402012-02-03T07:38:03.471-08:002012-02-03T07:38:03.471-08:00@Anon
A bit of an odd one sickipedia. I do sort o...@Anon<br /><br />A bit of an odd one sickipedia. I do sort of approve of the self-policing, equal opportunities 'offence' vibe, but sickipedia can be a bot of a pain in the arse comedically. A lot of the wannabe offensive comics I've seen just lift jokes straight from there. Gag theft is major no-no in the comedy world. And contributors to sickipedia have been known to just take jokes form working comics who are good at the whole offensive thing and rely on those jokes to make a living and send them to sickipedia where anyone can see them uncredited. When they complained, they got attacked.<br /><br />http://bit.ly/x8EN4b<br /><br />This was a while ago though, but I've heard it can still happenDean Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15054744507490592341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1440286750138199044.post-70061525243736430792012-02-03T06:19:15.526-08:002012-02-03T06:19:15.526-08:00Good article, nice idea to attack them on their co...Good article, nice idea to attack them on their comedy since going after their moral issues just gets ignored/shouted down, as you say, as being from feminists. I'd like to see one of their supporters answer this.<br /><br />One issue though:<br />I find your line "Anyone who has a working sense of humour and appreciation of good comedy would find the Unilad website as painful as Unilad's theoretical targets would find the consequences of their advice." to be in incredibly bad taste, especially considering the point of your article. This kind of unthinking trivialisation of rape seems, to me, as bad as the original Unilad jokes; while they're going out to deliberately offend people you basically said that, as a comedian, reading bad jokes is as bad as being raped and it looks to me like you did it without even realising.Johnhttps://twitter.com/#!/happy_guy23noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1440286750138199044.post-58611298379824395872012-02-03T06:07:12.169-08:002012-02-03T06:07:12.169-08:00In case you happen to be not aware of it, I've...In case you happen to be not aware of it, I've always been impressed with the level at Sickipedia:<br /><br />http://www.sickipedia.org/<br /><br />Yes, most of the humour is exceedingly tasteless, but it operates as an equal-opportunity-offender, and the community mods pick out the wheat from the chaff rather than simple laddish victimisation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com